Sonderbehandlung Revisited http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6048/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html en-us Copyright 2006, Yuku feeds@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Mon, 12 May 2008 12:11:29 GMT Thu, 15 May 2008 17:57:39 GMT Yuku Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Yuku http://static.yuku.com//feed/bypass/images/button-yuku.png http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6048/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html Yuku - free hosted forums and profiles 88 31 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95929/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95929 http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2008/05/mattognos-abuse-of-history.html

Thanks to Nick and Hans for their input. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonathan Harrison) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95929 Thu, 15 May 2008 17:57:39 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95842/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95842 Joachim Neander wrote:
I've already treated this case elsewhere (please excuse me, I'm not very fit in internetting and don't have the time to search for it). Let me sum up:
Those Jews from the Berlin transports that arrived in March 1943 at Auschwitz and who were not taken in, which meant registered as prisoners, obtaining a prisoner number, etc., and who were referred to in the (few) extant documents as... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nickterry) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95842 Tue, 13 May 2008 20:59:28 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95840/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95840 Those Jews from the Berlin transports that arrived in March 1943 at Auschwitz and who were not taken in, which meant registered as prisoners, obtaining a prisoner number, etc., and who were referred to in the (few) extant documents as sonderbehandelt or http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95840 Tue, 13 May 2008 20:34:19 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95837/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95837 http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.com/2006/03/mattognos-special-treatment-of.html

Note that S.B. appears in Auschwitz documents up to November 1944 but lyingcunt Mattogno just ignores them, as even he would not have the chutzpah to claim that the Nazis were still deporting Jews from Poland to the USSR in Nov 44! I mean,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonathan Harrison) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95837 Tue, 13 May 2008 19:01:13 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95807/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95807
1. First version of Korherr Report

2. Katzman Report

3. Lohse memo 18 June 43

4. 'In a memo dated July 20, 1943, Lt. Colonel Strauch of the Security Police writes that "I arrested and subjected to special treatment 70 Jews. . ." Strauch protests Kube's attitude...'

[Strauch also wrote the infamous Sluzk order that Jews were to be 'resettled' into... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonathan Harrison) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95807 Mon, 12 May 2008 21:56:23 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95788/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95788 But, Mattosha shows his usual incredible grasp of chronology by citing a document from three months after the document he is trying to 'neutralise'. Infact, the chronology is at least 8 months out, since Mattogno states that:
Since October of 1942, the evacuation of the Jewish population to the east, during which the Jews fit for labor were selected out at Auschwitz and remained there, was officially designated as... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonathan Harrison) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95788 Mon, 12 May 2008 19:39:41 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95781/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95781
... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonny) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95781 Mon, 12 May 2008 18:09:05 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95778/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95778 or what? And with the huge number of incoming "not fit to works", where did they all went
eventually. If all incoming "not fit to work"-people were sent to a holiday spa within the camp
it would grow enormously fast. Where does Mattogno claim they went after the spa weekend? ]]> feeds@yuku.com (tloB2) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95778 Mon, 12 May 2008 17:32:49 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95766/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95766 There were quite a few registered transports numbering 1000+ in 1943, i.e. of Poles/Russians or for example, the Theresienstadt family camp transports (so large they could not have been processed even if the Sauna was working when they arrived). Also, I think there is a link with the planning for the Quarantaenelager (BIIa) which opened at the end of the summer. There were cases where transports arrived, were registered, were quarantined and only then were they selected.

But,... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (nickterry) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95766 Mon, 12 May 2008 14:28:19 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95764/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95764
"The large dressing and undressing rooms are absolutely necessary, since the influx of an entire transport (approx. 2000), most of which arrive
at night, must be confined within a single area until the next morning."

According to Mattogno's own statements, the SS doctor Kremer was attending selections of Jewish transports when he was writing about "special actions".... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Hans) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95764 Sat, 27 Aug 1966 19:11:00 GMT <![CDATA[ Re: Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/95762/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html#reply-95762


7. "Special Treatment" of Jews Not Fit for Labor

The meeting between Speer and Pohl mentioned in the preceding chapter took place on September 15, 1942. On the next day, Pohl made a detailed re-port on it to Himmler. The discussion had dealt with four points, the first of which concerned the "enlargement of Auschwitz barracks camp... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Hans) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/sreply/95762 Mon, 12 May 2008 13:06:53 GMT <![CDATA[ Sonderbehandlung Revisited ]]> http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6048/t/Sonderbehandlung-Revisited.html http://www.topographie.de/de/ros_9.htm

My English translation of "Topography of Terror" (p.123) gives this translation of the 2nd paragraph:
Transport from Berlin, arrival March 7, 1943 total strength 690 including 25 prisoners in protective custody.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Jonathan Harrison) http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/6048 Mon, 12 May 2008 12:11:29 GMT