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A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ...
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Posts: 403 27-Jul-2008 15:55 |
"one of the saddest lessons of history is this. If we're bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer
interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It is simply too painful to acknowledge - even to ourselves -that we've been so
credulous." carl sagan (scientist and pullitzer prize winner) www.markturley.com
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Posts: 10229 27-Jul-2008 20:06 |
As I said, an "I'm so educated" and "I'm oh-so-mature" - hypocrite.
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Posts: 2128 28-Jul-2008 22:02 |
Gerdes is attacking a fellow denier (L. Dahl) on that Cesspit thread now.
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Posts: 724 28-Jul-2008 23:59 Moderator |
Jonathan Harrison wrote: Wow, all Dahl said was that perhaps as many as 5000 Jews may have died at Belzec (but not from gassing), and Gerdes starts with the "come on Laurentz, show me just one mass grave. JUST ONE" on him. This guy really needs to seek professional help...- Dave |
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Posts: 2129 29-Jul-2008 01:16 |
The response of Hannover (as well as Gerdes) to Dahl is another example of why it's denial, not revisionism. Dahl seems to be under the misapprehension that his colleagues are interested in revision (where you actually at least accept some the evidence into consideration). Gerdes and Hannover are drawing the line again at zero and are even revealing their defensiveness with remarks such as the giveaway, "Revisionists should be careful not to throw them an unwarranted bone." It's more important for these guys not to concede ground on a single killing than to meet the evidence even a small fraction of the way.Thus we get: Do we know about the veracity of the Kolomea 2,000 other than an alleged report from Josef Jacklein? There is a highly dubious statement by a 'Westermann' which is completely unsubstantiated and appears to have been coerced or manufactured to fit the general storyline.The fact that Jacklein and Westermann are independent witnesses whose evidence converges is too inconvenient for Hannover to acknowledge, so he makes a totally arbitrary allegation of coercion and fabrication. ON EDIT: Infact, the Kolomea incident is found in 4 sources, which Hilberg cites on p.518. All the sources are contemporaneous to the event (9/10/42 and 9/14/42) and the docs are in the USHMM collection that Hannover can go and inspect at any time.
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Posts: 6963 29-Jul-2008 08:10 |
Jonathan Harrison wrote:
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Posts: 13918 30-Jul-2008 01:57 humble, lovable shoeshine boy |
Jonathan Harrison wrote: Mel had no case, regardless of the IHR's funding, which is certainly not unlimited or remotely comparable to the ADL's.
We are not here -- I do not believe we are -- to decide who acted with the greatest brutality against innocent, unarmed civilians, but to clear up the record and to make it clear that the "unique" brutality of the Germans is a myth exploited obsessively throughout American culture for the political, social, and economic benefit of those who benefit from it. This is why we are forwarding the idea of an open debate on the matter, to break the taboo that forbids a real examination of the "unique monstrosity" of the Germans, which will, hopefully, lead to a public awareness and a back and forth on the issues we find [...] There is a tendency among revisionists, because of the stupid, one-sided history of WWII that has been institutionalized by our intellectual and political classes, to argue that the Germans are innocent of all wrong doing. I do not believe that can be demonstrated. ONE NAME, WITH PROOF http://bradleysmithsblog.blogspot.com |
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Posts: 10233 3-Aug-2008 00:08 |
These are the updates on HC regarding the ongoing conversation between cowardly cretins Gerdes and Hargis on the CODOH Cesspit :
2nd update 3rd update 4th update 5th update 6th update
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Posts: 2157 3-Aug-2008 17:23 |
Significantly, Gerdes and Hargis are already moving the goalposts. Whereas previously their gambit was "there are no photos", their new gambit is
"how do we know that this black ash came from the excavation area and was not brought in from elsewhere?" That's the game they'll play
throughout this process. The threshold of proof will be lifted higher and higher and increasingly absurd conspiracy theories will be offered as to how the
evidence was produced - "the bone fragments were brought in from another site" or "Sobibor had a mass typhus outbreak and the allies destroyed
the documents that describe the epidemic" or "the remains are really German troops that were killed by partisans".
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Posts: 2402 30-Aug-2008 14:21 |
How psychotic is this thread? The title bears no relation to the fake 'offer' beneath it: http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/1664?page=11
Just in case the title is changed later, it currently reads:
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Posts: 309 30-Aug-2008 15:58 |
That Gerdes fella is seriously retarded. It seem like they are uncomfortable with him there too.
No "valued contributor" for him... |
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Posts: 2405 30-Aug-2008 21:37 |
They have to untie his straitjacket before he can post.
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Posts: 2408 30-Aug-2008 22:37 |
Note that Gerdes is not requesting that Krege's work be published or that his fellow neo-Nazis should fund its publication. Why the double standard over
the non-appearance of Krege's methodology and 'proof' of the veracity of his findings?
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Posts: 10234 31-Aug-2008 00:26 |
JH wrote: See my VNN post # 777 , exhibit I.2 , Source Two. The latest about Gerdes on HC:
http://holocaustcontrover...e-obsession-for-poor.html
http://holocaustcontrover...t-gerdian-imbecility.html
On VNN: post # 1048 to # 1052 under http://206.41.117.128/showthread.php?t=73168
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Posts: 2419 31-Aug-2008 21:37 |
Cesspit's own link says that cremation destroys DNA: http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5108
So all this "one name with proof" and "show me the autopsy of the ashes" posing is really bullshit. |
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Posts: 321 31-Aug-2008 22:32 |
Holy mother...
Clamydia Rottencrotch writes: What happened to the teeth of 6,000,000 Jews?Seriously, I can't take these morons no more. 
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Posts: 14009 1-Sep-2008 22:03 humble, lovable shoeshine boy |
Massgraves would contain teeth, and depending on the thoroughness of the cremation process--backyard barbecues would not be thorough--there would be DNA
material in the pulp of the teeth. This means that if millions of people were gassed at burned at lilliputian camps like Treblinka, Belzec, Sobibor, and
Chelmno that did not have crematoria ovens, there would be amble proof of such, including scale. This should of course be investigated, but cannot be for
political reasons. And I'm not talking about finding some human remains but in corroborating the extermination claims and scale thereof.
Also, please note that Claudia Rothenbach may still be a poster at RODOH, so it is not a good idea to alter user names as above. Thanks 
We are not here -- I do not believe we are -- to decide who acted with the greatest brutality against innocent, unarmed civilians, but to clear up the record and to make it clear that the "unique" brutality of the Germans is a myth exploited obsessively throughout American culture for the political, social, and economic benefit of those who benefit from it. This is why we are forwarding the idea of an open debate on the matter, to break the taboo that forbids a real examination of the "unique monstrosity" of the Germans, which will, hopefully, lead to a public awareness and a back and forth on the issues we find [...] There is a tendency among revisionists, because of the stupid, one-sided history of WWII that has been institutionalized by our intellectual and political classes, to argue that the Germans are innocent of all wrong doing. I do not believe that can be demonstrated. ONE NAME, WITH PROOF http://bradleysmithsblog.blogspot.com |
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Posts: 3539 2-Sep-2008 01:52 |
Scott, how dare do you apply logic to this Holo-Claim, just believe, always believe.
Regards
Wilf No one is free, until we are all free |
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Posts: 10235 2-Sep-2008 08:15 |
SS wrote: Shape, size and contents of mass graves have been recently investigated at Belzec and at Chelmno, and at Sobibor an investigation that will also examine the mass graves is currently under way.
"There was a large field and throughout this field there were literally bones everywhere. It is very hardto imagine. In fact I was there andI myself couldn't believe it," said Rabbi Herzfeld. "I kept seeing these small white shards which looked to me like they were small stones. But then the archaeologist of the camp came over and toldme that these white pieces were in fact bone shards. I said, 'These things are bones, but they are everywhere.' And, he answered me, 'Of course, the bones are everywhere in this field.'" At Treblinka an adventurous "truth-seeker" did "Revisionism" a big disfavor by finding
what he had hoped not to find.
Scan from Krege's "forensic examination", as assessed by GPR expert Lawrence B. Conyers, see
under http://www.atheistparents...ostorder=asc&start=25
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I looked at the web site, and the image you sent. It is only one small part of his 'grid'. The picture shows him using a 200 MHz antenna and collecting about 1 meter spaced transects in a huge grid. That image is not processed, and only shows about a 5 meter long section in one line. And even in that profile it looks like a bunch of "things" in the ground on the right hand side that could easily be mass graves. It is apparent that this guy either does not know anything of GPR, or at the very least does not know how to process it. To really do a good job, the data need to be put into a 3-D cube of reflections and processed in a batch, including ALL the profiles collected. If you really wanted to get to the bottom of this you either need to get his data and let someone else process it, or re-collect it all and re-process your own data. This is NOT a scientific or representive study of the ground by any stretch. Assessment of same source under http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=94929 sallyg wrote: Obdicut wrote:
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Posts: 323 2-Sep-2008 11:26 |
Scott Smith 01 wrote:Where are the teeth of the typhus dead? |
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