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… to go to stinking liar and whimpering coward Jonni "Hannover" Hargis' Cesspit and ask for my "other username" there?

Why didn't you ask me right here, on this forum? I would have had no problem in telling you.The other handle I have used is "cortagravatas" and not "cortavagatas", by the way.

No, there's a way you can make good for your miserable, fish-wife-like behavior, apart from humbly apologizing for talking about me on a forum on which, as you well know or should have realized by now, I am not allowed to post.

As was to be expected, stinking liar and whimpering coward Jonni "Hannover" Hargis responded to your question with his customary list of threads in which I am supposed to have been "demolished".

As the fellow well knows, and as has been documented in this Memory Hole section, especially in my thread A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ... , I was never "demolished" in any discussion except through deletion or retention of my posts, prior to my eventual banning from CODOH. Hargis had to get rid of me because he couldn't handle me. And he obviously never got over that, which is why he keeps trying to make believe that I was bested in discussion.

So here's what you're going to do now, my fine friend: you're going to link your fellow CODOH clowns to this thread here and ask them to comment on my documentation of cowardly censorship at the CODOH Cesspit.

And you're going to extend my invitation to Jonni "Hannover" Hargis to leave his warm and cozy Führerbunker and do the requested commenting right here on this thread.

Let's see it you have the balls to do that, Bankdraft. Or if you're another piece of chicken-shit like Hargis.

Ah, and for Hargis and the other CODOH clowns to realize that there are even "Revisionists" who have realized what "open debate" on CODOH is all about, I'll add the quote of a post by Mr. Heink ("neugierig") in which he expresses this awareness:

I agree, Herr Muehlankamp, those guys over there are not entirely honest. Banning you and others and then performing victory dances is beyond even chutzpah. Hopefully this new poster, if he is new, will soon realize that dissenting views, if you will, are verboten.
As far as pointing him to RODOH, the name can not be mentioned, it is deleted. One of my posts was totally distorted, I dared mention RODOH, should have copied it, which almost made me quit that forum. Anyway, who knows, perhaps this lost sheep will find its way.

Now get cracking, you sorry punk. I want that link to this thread on CODOH within 12 hours from the time of this post.

My Recent Posts · 6-Dec-2008

Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise?

My Recent Posts · 6-Dec-2008

Peter Gast wrote:
Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise?

Hargis is a treasured friend of several people on this forum, me included. If you spend some time in this Memory Hole section, you'll find out more about him.

My Recent Posts · 6-Dec-2008

Peter Gast wrote:
Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise?

Jonnie Hargis is one of the more vacuous deniers on the internet. Due to his friendship with Bradley Smith and John Ball he has held a succession of positions
as moderator on Holocaust discussion boards (three periods on CODOH and at the now defunct air-photo forum).

In each instance he has constructed "RULES" carefully written and applied to justfy the banning of anyone who makes deniers look foolish. A few minutes with the archives of any of these boards reveals hundreds of threads, all ending with a final post by Hargis (Hannover). He simply deleted responses and banned the posters.

Jamie McCarthy, Andrew Mathis and I participated on these boards going back over 10 years ago. Each of us collected and saved threads exhibiting Hargis's behavior, including posts that had been deleted. At one time we began to put together an article on the topic, but his actions became so transparent to so many, deniers and non-deniers, that it seemed a waste of time.

In all this time, Hargis has never appeared on usenet or any web-based forum outside of those he totally controlled.

That ought to tell you something about his character. A modern day Goebbels.

My Recent Posts · 7-Dec-2008

A modern day Goebbels.

At least Goebbels liked women. And had a brain. If Hargis didn't have his book-stacking job he'd be sucking dicks under a bridge for lunch money.

My Recent Posts · 7-Dec-2008

Meanwhile, this thread doesn't look like Bankdraft is interested in making good for his miserable, fish-wife-like behavior.

Or maybe he tried and Hargis deleted the post.

Did you post a link to this RODOH thread and my invitation to Hargis on CODOH, Bankdraft?

My Recent Posts · 7-Dec-2008

I had a look over some of those threads, and found it quite amazing that Roberto actually tried to argue that 3.5KG of Coke per person was sufficient. Did you really used to believe that Roberto, or was it just a kind of intellectual exercise and demonstration of how anything might be argued persuasively, no matter how absurd, if one has sufficient command of rhetoric?

I hate to think that at one time you actually truly believed the 3.5kg claim.

My Recent Posts · 8-Dec-2008

PG wrote:
I had a look over some of those threads, and found it quite amazing that Roberto actually tried to argue that 3.5KG of Coke per person was sufficient. Did you really used to believe that Roberto, or was it just a kind of intellectual exercise and demonstration of how anything might be argued persuasively, no matter how absurd, if one has sufficient command of rhetoric?

I hate to think that at one time you actually truly believed the 3.5kg claim.

Depends on what you mean by "the 3.5 kg claim". If it's the straw-man crap about 3.5 kg of coke being sufficient to burn a single human body in a crematorium, the answer is no, of course. As an average for mass cremation relying on body fat as the main combustion agent once the ovens have reached sufficient heat, it's not too far away from my own calculations. See my post of 5-Oct-2006 11:04

My Recent Posts · 28-Feb-2009

What was Bankdraft's reaction to my having pulled his ears for his cowardly, fish-wife-like behavior?

More of the same, echoed by other bitching fish-wives (I must have pissed off quite a few of the sort) apparently eager to show what lowly creatures it is that "Revisionism" appeals to.

Particularly amusing about Bankdraft's display of intellectual misery is his having quoted Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis' lie about why he banned me from the Cesspit:

He booted himself by engaging in spamming and namecalling. He had his chance to debate, floundered, and in utter frustration went berserk.

BD is hereby requested to read the thread The Memory Hole Festival goes on ..., where the posts from my last debating session on CODOH (prior to my being banned from that lovely place) are recorded (including the posts that were deleted by the moderator), and point out what he considers "spamming and namecalling" in any of these posts. (Of course BD will ignore this request, being as he is aware that "Hannover" is as full of shit as himself.)

Even more amusing, however, is the fellow's "insecure she-man" and "school-girl melt-down" - gibberish. Coming from someone who went squealing to his CODOH buddies about my having pulled his ears, I'd call that a conspicuous case of self-projection.

Keep showing your utter lack of character, BD. Instructive examples of "Revisionist" intellectual garbage are always appreciated.

We see another example, by the way, as "Valued contributor" Hektor, on the thread Muehlenkamp accepts nafcash's challenge (see my related blog series starting here ) asks his fellow true believers the following question:

Did Roberto Muehlenkamp actually come up with anything that can be considered factual evidence for Treblinka being an extermination center or what did he do?

Why don't you come over here and ask the man himself, Hektor?

My Recent Posts · 1-Mar-2009

I've been banned there twice. Iisn't worth the time. They want to hide out among themselves and think they are fooling people that's fine. Don't expect them to come here and honestly discuss things.

Mike

My Recent Posts · 1-Mar-2009

So it seems.

On the thread Muehlenkamp accepts nafcash's challenge , we have some nervous joking by KostasL, which stands out only for its mendacity:

KostasL wrote:
Is calling names considered as factual evidence for Treblinka being an extermination center?

Then yes, he got lots of factual evidence.

More or less content with this reply, the other "intellectually curious" character asks for examples of name-calling:

Hektor wrote:
So no factual evidence for massgraves in Treblinka or disposing of them?

Didn't the Polish commission find some evidence?

Some examples of name calling then ? Perhaps they are at least funny.

If evidence is what Hektor is interested in (I have no idea what "factual evidence", as opposed to evidence that is not "factual", is supposed to mean - perhaps KostasL or Hektor would like to explain), I suggest he look up my posts on the VNN thread Archaeological Investigations of Treblinka, including but not limited to posts nos. 172, 194 and 1825.

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Member Posts: 10411 6-Dec-2008 14:08	Tags : None … to go to stinking liar and whimpering coward Jonni "Hannover" Hargis' Cesspit and ask for my "other username" there? Why didn't you ask me right here, on this forum? I would have had no problem in telling you.The other handle I have used is "cortagravatas" and not "cortavagatas", by the way. No, there's a way you can make good for your miserable, fish-wife-like behavior, apart from humbly apologizing for talking about me on a forum on which, as you well know or should have realized by now, I am not allowed to post. As was to be expected, stinking liar and whimpering coward Jonni "Hannover" Hargis responded to your question with his customary list of threads in which I am supposed to have been "demolished". As the fellow well knows, and as has been documented in this Memory Hole section, especially in my thread A message to Jonnie Hannover Hargis ... , I was never "demolished" in any discussion except through deletion or retention of my posts, prior to my eventual banning from CODOH. Hargis had to get rid of me because he couldn't handle me. And he obviously never got over that, which is why he keeps trying to make believe that I was bested in discussion. So here's what you're going to do now, my fine friend: you're going to link your fellow CODOH clowns to this thread here and ask them to comment on my documentation of cowardly censorship at the CODOH Cesspit. And you're going to extend my invitation to Jonni "Hannover" Hargis to leave his warm and cozy Führerbunker and do the requested commenting right here on this thread. Let's see it you have the balls to do that, Bankdraft. Or if you're another piece of chicken-shit like Hargis. Ah, and for Hargis and the other CODOH clowns to realize that there are even "Revisionists" who have realized what "open debate" on CODOH is all about, I'll add the quote of a post by Mr. Heink ("neugierig") in which he expresses this awareness: I agree, Herr Muehlankamp, those guys over there are not entirely honest. Banning you and others and then performing victory dances is beyond even chutzpah. Hopefully this new poster, if he is new, will soon realize that dissenting views, if you will, are verboten. As far as pointing him to RODOH, the name can not be mentioned, it is deleted. One of my posts was totally distorted, I dared mention RODOH, should have copied it, which almost made me quit that forum. Anyway, who knows, perhaps this lost sheep will find its way. Now get cracking, you sorry punk. I want that link to this thread on CODOH within 12 hours from the time of this post. Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation). Last Edited By: Roberto 6-Dec-2008 14:16. Edited 1 time.
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Member Posts: 166 6-Dec-2008 18:47	Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise?
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Member Posts: 10415 6-Dec-2008 20:41	Peter Gast wrote: Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise? Hargis is a treasured friend of several people on this forum, me included. If you spend some time in this Memory Hole section, you'll find out more about him. Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation).
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Member Posts: 2333 6-Dec-2008 23:59	Peter Gast wrote: Seems to me Roberto that you don't much like this Hargis guy. Is that a fair summise? Jonnie Hargis is one of the more vacuous deniers on the internet. Due to his friendship with Bradley Smith and John Ball he has held a succession of positions as moderator on Holocaust discussion boards (three periods on CODOH and at the now defunct air-photo forum). In each instance he has constructed "RULES" carefully written and applied to justfy the banning of anyone who makes deniers look foolish. A few minutes with the archives of any of these boards reveals hundreds of threads, all ending with a final post by Hargis (Hannover). He simply deleted responses and banned the posters. Jamie McCarthy, Andrew Mathis and I participated on these boards going back over 10 years ago. Each of us collected and saved threads exhibiting Hargis's behavior, including posts that had been deleted. At one time we began to put together an article on the topic, but his actions became so transparent to so many, deniers and non-deniers, that it seemed a waste of time. In all this time, Hargis has never appeared on usenet or any web-based forum outside of those he totally controlled. That ought to tell you something about his character. A modern day Goebbels. “They (Allies) accepted the HGCs (Holocaust Gas Chambers) uncritically because they authored these lies.” Scott Smith’s Conspiracy www.jewishgen.org/ForgottenCamps/Exhib/HowtoEngl.html
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Member Posts: 2520 7-Dec-2008 00:47	A modern day Goebbels. At least Goebbels liked women. And had a brain. If Hargis didn't have his book-stacking job he'd be sucking dicks under a bridge for lunch money.
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Member Posts: 10418 7-Dec-2008 15:04	Meanwhile, this thread doesn't look like Bankdraft is interested in making good for his miserable, fish-wife-like behavior. Or maybe he tried and Hargis deleted the post. Did you post a link to this RODOH thread and my invitation to Hargis on CODOH, Bankdraft? Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation).
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Member Posts: 171 7-Dec-2008 17:32	I had a look over some of those threads, and found it quite amazing that Roberto actually tried to argue that 3.5KG of Coke per person was sufficient. Did you really used to believe that Roberto, or was it just a kind of intellectual exercise and demonstration of how anything might be argued persuasively, no matter how absurd, if one has sufficient command of rhetoric? I hate to think that at one time you actually truly believed the 3.5kg claim.
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Member Posts: 10419 8-Dec-2008 15:35	PG wrote: I had a look over some of those threads, and found it quite amazing that Roberto actually tried to argue that 3.5KG of Coke per person was sufficient. Did you really used to believe that Roberto, or was it just a kind of intellectual exercise and demonstration of how anything might be argued persuasively, no matter how absurd, if one has sufficient command of rhetoric? I hate to think that at one time you actually truly believed the 3.5kg claim. Depends on what you mean by "the 3.5 kg claim". If it's the straw-man crap about 3.5 kg of coke being sufficient to burn a single human body in a crematorium, the answer is no, of course. As an average for mass cremation relying on body fat as the main combustion agent once the ovens have reached sufficient heat, it's not too far away from my own calculations. See my post of 5-Oct-2006 11:04 Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation).
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Member Posts: 10907 28-Feb-2009 22:15	What was Bankdraft's reaction to my having pulled his ears for his cowardly, fish-wife-like behavior? More of the same, echoed by other bitching fish-wives (I must have pissed off quite a few of the sort) apparently eager to show what lowly creatures it is that "Revisionism" appeals to. Particularly amusing about Bankdraft's display of intellectual misery is his having quoted Jonnie "Hannover" Hargis' lie about why he banned me from the Cesspit: He booted himself by engaging in spamming and namecalling. He had his chance to debate, floundered, and in utter frustration went berserk. BD is hereby requested to read the thread The Memory Hole Festival goes on ..., where the posts from my last debating session on CODOH (prior to my being banned from that lovely place) are recorded (including the posts that were deleted by the moderator), and point out what he considers "spamming and namecalling" in any of these posts. (Of course BD will ignore this request, being as he is aware that "Hannover" is as full of shit as himself.) Even more amusing, however, is the fellow's "insecure she-man" and "school-girl melt-down" - gibberish. Coming from someone who went squealing to his CODOH buddies about my having pulled his ears, I'd call that a conspicuous case of self-projection. Keep showing your utter lack of character, BD. Instructive examples of "Revisionist" intellectual garbage are always appreciated. We see another example, by the way, as "Valued contributor" Hektor, on the thread Muehlenkamp accepts nafcash's challenge (see my related blog series starting here ) asks his fellow true believers the following question: Did Roberto Muehlenkamp actually come up with anything that can be considered factual evidence for Treblinka being an extermination center or what did he do? Why don't you come over here and ask the man himself, Hektor? Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation). Last Edited By: Roberto 28-Feb-2009 22:23. Edited 3 times.
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Member Posts: 4251 1-Mar-2009 02:29	I've been banned there twice. Iisn't worth the time. They want to hide out among themselves and think they are fooling people that's fine. Don't expect them to come here and honestly discuss things. Mike Remember what Irma Grese said right after the trial? I'll remind you: "It was our duty to exterminate anti-social elements, so that Germany's future would be assured."
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Member Posts: 10908 1-Mar-2009 13:27	So it seems. On the thread Muehlenkamp accepts nafcash's challenge , we have some nervous joking by KostasL, which stands out only for its mendacity: KostasL wrote: Is calling names considered as factual evidence for Treblinka being an extermination center? Then yes, he got lots of factual evidence. More or less content with this reply, the other "intellectually curious" character asks for examples of name-calling: Hektor wrote: So no factual evidence for massgraves in Treblinka or disposing of them? Didn't the Polish commission find some evidence? Some examples of name calling then ? Perhaps they are at least funny. If evidence is what Hektor is interested in (I have no idea what "factual evidence", as opposed to evidence that is not "factual", is supposed to mean - perhaps KostasL or Hektor would like to explain), I suggest he look up my posts on the VNN thread Archaeological Investigations of Treblinka, including but not limited to posts nos. 172, 194 and 1825. Custom Signature *Quote:* Denial of generally known historical facts should not be punishable. For those who maintain, for instance, that Germany did not take part in World War I or that Adenauer fought at Issus in 333, their own stupidity is punishment enough. The same should apply to the denial of the horrors and crimes of the recent German past. ~ A German jurist by the name of Baumann in the German juridical magazine NJW, quoted in: Bailer-Galanda/Benz/Neugebauer (ed.), Die Auschwitzleugner, Berlin 1996, page 261 (my translation). Last Edited By: Roberto 1-Mar-2009 13:33. Edited 1 time.
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