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Wahrheitseeker wrote:

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So the leading candidates are still tied up with 5 apiece.

My hands are tied at the moment in regards to asking others to join in, for each topic would be deserving of a different set of participants.

The essential prerequisite of a debate is to have two sides. Therefore, whichever topic could drum up more support from revisionists willing to participate, would be the one to go with. The tie in votes is on the non-revisionist side.

Although so far you are the only revisionist to commit even tentatively to the idea of a debate, if I might make a suggestion:: why not consider debating the mass shootings in eastern Poland as well as the AR camps? This would cover almost all of the Holocaust in (prewar) Poland, and the overlap with the USSR is considerable.

The suggestion might, possibly, bring in people who are interested in either the AR camps or the shootings. There is likely no shortage of people on the non-revisionist side willing to take on both topics, and they could be run in virtual parallel.

The shootings in eastern Poland are also a valid test case for some revisionist as well as some mainstream contentions, since being closer to the border, the 'they all ran away' line is less relevant, but on the other hand, there were more 1005 exhumations and incinerations. There is a fair amount of material on the shootings in eastern Poland available online or included in IMT/NCA/NMT, as well as in relatively accessible literature. Wilno, Bialystok, Baranovichi, Slonim, Brest, Pinsk, Stanislawow, Lwow, Tarnopol and Rowno all come under this rubric, and some of these towns have at least been tentatively addressed by name revisionists. Also, this zone was affected by pogroms from the local population, and that too has attracted some previous comment from name revisionists, while there is little doubt that eastern Poland was where there were, eventually, more Jewish partisans than further east.

We have actually discussed many of these towns on RODOH, so the archives here have material on them in addition to what might be located elsewhere or in libraries.

This suggestion would impose a certain geographical limit on the shootings debate, although examples from further east could be brought in by either side for comparison, context or analogy. It would also fit in well with a parallel ARC debate, since the Bialystok and Galicia districts saw deportations to Treblinka and Belzec.

A twin-track debate would centre around the absolute core reports, Korherr, Hoefle, Stroop, Katzmann, Jaeger and through that Stahlecker, Kube-Lohse, as well as Meldung 51. I would suggest that these eight documents have to be 'dealt with' by revisionism in any case, as they come up virtually as a matter of course in discussions on here. It is a bit sad that to my knowledge, there is no revisionist text that deals with all eight of these measly eight documents.

Because of that, I will step out of my Mr Reasonable mode and post our old friend